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Old 09-20-2014, 11:55 AM   #1  
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Okay, so if you were making and selling stamps with paw prints, wouldn't it be wise to look up the difference between CAT and DOG paw prints before you make the stamps? This should be especially true if you are selling them in sets with other dog or cat images.

I am in the process of making sets of dog and cat themed cards and items to donate to my local animal shelter for them to use in raffle baskets and other fund-raising efforts. Many (but not all) of the paw print stamps I have seen mistakenly show CAT prints on stamps or sets labeled DOG. Or they show a mish-mash that is neither.

The thumbnail included shows the difference.

I know this is being really picky--but I feel like my cards should "get it right" if they are going to be auctioned or sold to dog and cat people.

Thanks for letting me vent.
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I understand what you say and also why you feel they should be "right."

That said, I know that most of us who make cards tend look at all things crafty with a much more critical eye than the general public does. I truly don't think most people would look closely enough to notice the difference.

Since it matters to you, if you have separate paw print stamps for both dog and cat, you could be sure you used the correct ones on your cards. If they are part of an overall stamp design and can't be done separately, I hope you don't worry too much about it.
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Thanks, Bugga--I just needed to vent. When I make my cards to give to friends, I don't give the paw print stuff much attention. I guess I am overly concerned because these will be sold--and for a cause I really believe in. I'll take a deep breath and see if I have any stamps in my stash that get it right.
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Bugga has a point for sure; crafters are more critical of details like that. But I agree with you that for sale such as you are doing, they really should be right! That would bother me too. Cat and dog people WILL be buying the cards so they will likely notice errors more readily than the average joe.

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I would just figure this falls under artistic license. As long as it's close I would not pay any mind to it. Many of the images stampers use are not true to life representations. After all, how many dogs have you seen with big toothy human grins, or mice and cats decorating Christmas trees. There's also the featureless faces of little girls out there too (never understood the appeal of those).
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I had never heard that their prints were different...thank you for the education!
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I'm a wildlife biologist, and this kind of thing drives me bonkers!

I also get irritated when movies/TV get stuff wrong. Like one scene where the lead character was harvesting corn and spring peepers were calling in the backgroung. Grrrr. Or a desert scene with a loon calling. I really want to figure out how to market my services as an Environmental Accuracy Consultant to Hollywood. They spend so much on specials effects, why not pay attention to other important details, too.
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I'm a wildlife biologist, and this kind of thing drives me bonkers!

I also get irritated when movies/TV get stuff wrong. Like one scene where the lead character was harvesting corn and spring peepers were calling in the backgroung. Grrrr. Or a desert scene with a loon calling. I really want to figure out how to market my services as an Environmental Accuracy Consultant to Hollywood. They spend so much on specials effects, why not pay attention to other important details, too.
Like when Modern Family recently did a show here in Australia and there was a subtropical scene with a desert kangaroo. Uhh?!?!? The segment was funny enough as scripted but the 'wrong' animal made it even more comical. LOL. Was happy to re-watch that take as often as they played it here.
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Like when Modern Family recently did a show here in Australia and there was a subtropical scene with a desert kangaroo. Uhh?!?!? The segment was funny enough as scripted but the 'wrong' animal made it even more comical. LOL. Was happy to re-watch that take as often as they played it here.
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Since a lot of the filming switched to Canada, I've grown used to Northern Boreal forests everywhere, no matter where the show is actually set. Like an X-Files episode that was set in the Apalachicola National Forest in Florida. The two ecosystems are totally different.
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And I won't mention when SU tried to appeal to our market with a cricket (sport) themed image with a very baseball styled look. Like the 'animal' paw print that is neither cat or dog is was a mash up that didn't fit in anyone's idea of normal no matter what they played.
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Neil deGrasse Tyson got all bent out of shape when he saw that the night-sky starscape in the Titanic (when the girl looked up at the sky) was not only NOT the correct night (the movie was advertised as being very historically accurate) but that the sky was cut in half and mirror-imaged. Lol. The director said that was the fault of the cutting room, but for a special release years later, he had the cutting room guy call Tyson for an accurate night sky.
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These are all great examples. I think it is difficult for specialists of ANY kind when they see so many errors in their own specialty. Most other people will never notice.

I am not a specialist in animals or paw prints (unless you call being owned by four cats a specialty). I have even used some of the mish-mash print stamps I mentioned. But when I decided to make items for the animal shelter I thought I'd better do a little research--after all, if I got it wrong it might reflect poorly on them.

I guess I shouldn't worry about it so much. Hooray for artistic license and creativity! (But I will still try to get it right when it matters). ;)
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The comments about noticing errors in your area of expertise make me smile. My husband, who spent many years in the military often complains about a movie character shooting a gun 12 times that only hold 6 bullets, for example, and don't even get ME started on the errors when there is dental treatment being done on a TV show.

There was a discussion a while back about snowflakes being depicted accurately on stamps. I always count the points now.
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The comments about noticing errors in your area of expertise make me smile. My husband, who spent many years in the military often complains about a movie character shooting a gun 12 times that only hold 6 bullets, for example, and don't even get ME started on the errors when there is dental treatment being done on a TV show.

There was a discussion a while back about snowflakes being depicted accurately on stamps. I always count the points now.
Ha!Ha! I remember this, and now I do the same thing too!
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YES! At least someone else counts snowflake points too! I don't mind if they bill 8-pointed images as "medallions", but don't try to convince me that they're snowflakes!

I'm with you Sue...only in a different field. I don't watch TV so none of that gets to me, but I read. And I am really irritated at HISTORICAL errors. As in having something in the book for a particular time frame when it wasn't even invented yet. And GEOGRAPHICAL errors...like taking two hours to drive 400 miles away.

Supposedly, editors should be catching those things, or hiring a specialist to do it for them.
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Oh please...I just learned about paw prints can you enlighten me on snowflakes? Or give me a link? I must live in a bubble.
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I completely agree with the paw prints and the snowflakes!! Both SHOULD be accurate!! IMHO


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I am so jealous of your career! Lucky girl! I wanted to become a primatologist. That is one of my regrets. I went into weather instead. No complaints with life, maybe a little. I always feel that tug when I see primates.

Yes, yes, yes & double yes about the paw prints! That is one of my big pet peeves. No, it's just not crafter's who are critical. I am sure there are a few animal lovers thinking the stamp companies need to look at a real cat paw.

Snowflakes- Oh my gosh I remember that thread. I loved it. You would think having a career in weather and my specialty is Winter weather I would be picky about snowflakes. Snowflakes fall in my fantasy realm for me. Yes, if it was a scientific snowflake it better have the correct points.

Weather related stamps are my pet peeve. The rare weather related stamps that are on the market don't look like the weather the stamp company is trying to go for. I have seen a lot of tornadoes in my life. I have never seen a tornado like what is on stamps.

I saw a stamp with a blizzard scene. It looked liked falling ash from a volcano. Not my idea of a blizzard, lol.
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I'm with you Sue...only in a different field. I don't watch TV so none of that gets to me, but I read. And I am really irritated at HISTORICAL errors. As in having something in the book for a particular time frame when it wasn't even invented yet. And GEOGRAPHICAL errors...like taking two hours to drive 400 miles away.
I have a friend like this, and I can't watch any period movie with her because she will pick it apart with a fine tooth comb.

And yet, I can't keep myself from complaining when they get the animal or ecosystem part wrong. Like the most recent Bourne movie, where he was getting stalked and attacked by wolves. Wolves don't do that! I had to mention my irritation several times. My husband is used to it by now.
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I just annoyed one of my cats BIG TIME by looking at her paw pad. I'm very happy to learn that the paw print stamp that I bought at Michael's has been correctly used on my kitty cards all these years. And I'm also happy that the dog stamp set that I own has the correct paw prints on it.

Thank you for starting this thread, I knew the prints were different but had never bothered to learn how. I enjoy learning things like this.
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OK. Are you donating the cards to be sold on behalf of the Shelter? Because, honestly if people are that picky about a cat v dog print then they have too much time on their hands (says the momma of a new to us, 3 1/2 months, Furbaby that we rescued on his death day).

Honestly, I think unless your style is very realistic then the cartoon-y paw print which is a bit ambiguous is probably just fine.

If you are using stamps that are more Northwoods than High Hopes then there could be a bigger issue.

Oh and I used to work in Medical Administration in England and my husband and I would sit and watch ER and in the first five minutes I would go, "uh oh" and he would say "what?". It got to be that he would quiz me at the beginning (during the first ad break) and we would see how close I got to the treatment/plotline. I think I ended with a 100% record on things I knew and a pretty good guesstimation rate at those I didn't.

Sue - at the above post, I was called by "Casualty" (England's "ER") to find a medical consult as their normal Doctor was away on vacation. If you are serious then you probably need to be affiliated with Foley Artists and a Sound studio.
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I've actually stopped watching cheesy SciFi natural disaster movies with my mom because it always leads to a geology lecture. I tell her everytime, "it's Hollywood not National Geographic". But, she just can't help herself!
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YAY for your new baby and thank you for rescuing him! You should post a picture. And include his little paws for all of our verification that they're cute like the stamps. ;)
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I also get irritated when movies/TV get stuff wrong. Like one scene where the lead character was harvesting corn and spring peepers were calling in the backgroung. Grrrr. Or a desert scene with a loon calling. I really want to figure out how to market my services as an Environmental Accuracy Consultant to Hollywood. They spend so much on specials effects, why not pay attention to other important details, too.
There's a first-season episode of NCIS that shows a very rocky "Virginia" beach.

Another first-season episode is supposed to take place aboard the USS Enterprise, CVN-65. However, sprinkled throughout the episode are several scenes that show the USS John Stennis, CVN-74, was used for some of the filming. They also substituted an aerial shot of the USS Carl Vinson, CVN-70, for the Enterprise in one scene.

The show is supposed to take place in the Washington DC area. Occasionally one of the characters will refer to the major north-south interstate highway that goes through there as "the I-95". Um, no - putting "the" in front of the interstate number is a Los Angeles-area thing!


Anyway, I think it's interesting to hear and see what we notice compared to what other people notice!
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Hahaha

I am glad to be part of this thread. DS and I end try to guess the story line and are right about 90% of the time. Drives DH crazy, sometimes he tells us we're not allowed to talk during the show because we keep telling what's happening next. Before it happens.

Thanks for starting my day with a laugh
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I made several darling dog cards and cat cards using BEAR tracks! Knew no better. Everyone liked the cards, and nobody commented on that error. But once I figured it out, I'll never do it again.
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Thanks for showing me the difference between cat & dog paws -- I did kinda wonder if my stamps were accurate... I have no idea about paws, snowflakes, etc. but I did notice when I was watching the movie 42 -- Jackie Robinson got hit in the head and they showed him sutured and steri striped -- steri strips weren't available until the 1990's ..
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I feel the same way about those stupid Sharknado movies. The complete scientific impossibility of such a thing just grates on me. So do continuity and geographic errors!
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I feel the same way about those stupid Sharknado movies. The complete scientific impossibility of such a thing just grates on me. So do continuity and geographic errors!
We're contemplating getting the dog a Shark Halloween costume and making a tornado costume for my youngest (his idea) :lol:

I know sometimes there are reasons production can't happen in the place it is supposed to happen (like the new Sherlock series isn't filmed on Baker St because that is fairly major road in central London) but at least try to make it similar enough that people don't say WTH :???:

I like continuity errors. One of the National Treasure movies has a chase scene that goes across the River Thames about 9 times but only crosses a bridge twice. :lol: and I think both times it crosses to the same bank... but I could be mistaken on that.
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I like continuity errors. One of the National Treasure movies has a chase scene that goes across the River Thames about 9 times but only crosses a bridge twice. :lol: and I think both times it crosses to the same bank... but I could be mistaken on that.
I laughed so hard when I read this. My husband had a fit about that scene. He wouldn't let up about how many times they crossed the Thames but not the bridge. He even went as far as to point out other movie and video games that go over that bridge. He was really upset about it.

My DH & I do love the B budget disaster films. Even though he goes off about those too. I am the weather expert in the household. I am screaming "IT'S A B BUDGET MOVIE!" ROFL! I loved Sharknado. It was so darn cheesy.

Ian Ziering climbing off a bridge with a rope that wouldn't hold a bird, freeing all those kids on a bus. They all climbed the same rope too. Of course all those kids were saved in like five minutes even though it would have taken most of the day. Then at the end three women pull Ian up from the bridge even though they all weighed about 100 pounds together. How much does Tara Reid weigh like 97 lbs? I am a tiny girl I would have dropped his booty. Then I would have felt so bad. I mean that is Steve Sanders and he's now a Chippendale. I can't wait to see Sharknado 2.
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