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Old 08-06-2008, 07:30 AM   #1  
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I borrowed the whole set of SU markers from a frined and when I color I am seeing lines/streaks.It seems if I have to color a larger area the overlap lines show. Is this normal. Also, I can not get them to blend well. I was under the impression I could outline the stamped image than "pull" the color outwards/towards the center and have it look like it is shaded. I normally use prisma pencils and boby oil and can achieve this effect. Got any tips or suggestions.

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I use a blender pen when I color with the markers. You can either outline the stamped image like you said, but you use the blender pen to pull the color. I scribble the marker onto something like aluminum foil or something non-porous, then pick up the color with the blender pen.
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I think that if you outline the whole image and then go back to "pull in" the color, the ink will have dried by then. Water based markers dry very fast.

Try outlining only small sections at a time and working with that section.

Another way would be to put color from the marker on the tip of your blender and then color. Keep taking the color from different areas of the marker because if you do not, then that area of the marker will get very light. All that means is the ink is being used up in that section and waiting a while for the ink to run down from the barrel will remedy this. However, it slows down your progress.
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also make sure you are using premium paper to stamp on - that makes a HUGE difference
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Here is a wonderful tutorial showing you how to blend using SU Markers... how to get the Copic look.

http://paperpleasing.typepad.com/my_...ics-no-pr.html


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The SU markers aren't really meant for coloring large areas well. The tutorial about getting the copic look is great, but it is watercoloring.

I have had 2 sets of SU markers over the past 5 years and sold both because I could not get satisfied with the look, no matter what technique I did. The colors simply aren't meant for shading or art, they simply match the SU colors.
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Try making the gesso paper, the markers blend awesome with that, but I have had good luck just layering the color from lightest to darkest.
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I really use my markers for writing and coloring directly on line stamps. Sometimes, if it's more convenient to grab my markers, I do color onto a piece of plastic and watercolor with the marker. But, for large areas, I usually use the reinker / ink pad lid or, even more frequently, SU crayons. For shading, I use the neutral crayons or lay on addiitonal layers of color. Sometimes, I just color the outside and pull the color in. I think that when watercolor watercoloring, watercolor paper or shimmery paper, gives the best results. JMHO
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I've never had luck with blending my SU markers. I do love them for do direct to stamp coloring with different colors on a stamp. That's why I've kept mine. I find alcohol based markers blend much more easily.
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If you look in my gallery, almost all of my colored images are colored with SU! or Tombow markers. Either with a blender pen, or water and paintbrush. I don't have a problem shading/blending at all.
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The SU markers aren't really meant for coloring large areas well. The tutorial about getting the copic look is great, but it is watercoloring.

I have had 2 sets of SU markers over the past 5 years and sold both because I could not get satisfied with the look, no matter what technique I did. The colors simply aren't meant for shading or art, they simply match the SU colors.
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If you look in my gallery, almost all of my colored images are colored with SU! or Tombow markers. Either with a blender pen, or water and paintbrush. I don't have a problem shading/blending at all.
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I find Tombows to be a bit better than SU, which I cannot get to blend worth a darn. The ultimate is Copic and I am slowly building a collection. I am going to sell all my SU markers. They are simply filled with the same ink as in the pads so that they will match. They are not good for artwork.
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Another option would be to try watercolor paper...(sorry if that was mentioned already.)


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I borrowed the whole set of SU markers from a frined and when I color I am seeing lines/streaks.It seems if I have to color a larger area the overlap lines show. Is this normal. Also, I can not get them to blend well. I was under the impression I could outline the stamped image than "pull" the color outwards/towards the center and have it look like it is shaded. I normally use prisma pencils and boby oil and can achieve this effect. Got any tips or suggestions.

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If you look in my gallery, almost all of my colored images are colored with SU! or Tombow markers. Either with a blender pen, or water and paintbrush. I don't have a problem shading/blending at all.


Thank you for sharing your wonderful gallery with us!

The shading/blending issue I was referring to was by using the markers to color straight on paper. I think many of us buy the SU markers expecting to be able to color with them directly and have it look nice. I know I would not have bought them had I known the only way to get them to blend was to use them as a painting tool, which using a watercolor brush or blender pen is doing.
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Here is a wonderful tutorial showing you how to blend using SU Markers... how to get the Copic look.

http://paperpleasing.typepad.com/my_...ics-no-pr.html


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If you are coloring large area's, I found that the Wal-Mart paper Georgia-Pacific leaves streak marks. I also found that if I use Stampin Up Whisper White or Vanilla paper coloring with the SU markers is smoother and less streaks. You can give the SU paper a try and see if you like that bettter.
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Try making the gesso paper, the markers blend awesome with that, but I have had good luck just layering the color from lightest to darkest.

HELP! What is the gesso paper?

Thanks all for sharing your expertise, great tutorials, and fabulous galleries. I was expecting the markers to be more blendable once on the paper. I will say they are beautiful markers they just do not work (for me) the way I would like them to. Guess I know what will go on my anniversary gift, Christmas gift and Birthday gift list for the next few years.....Copics.

Someone mentioned that the cardstock may make a difference. I have been using the GP from Wal-Mart. I do have a few sheets of SU. WIll have to give it a try.
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here is a link for instructions on the gesso paper:

http://karenswhimsy.com/play/decorat...pers-gesso.htm

or you can buy it here:

http://www.dickblick.com/zz006/82/

It's traditionally for canvas and art, I know I wouldn't do this for stamping all the time.

If you can, try the Papertrey white cardstock, it's super heavy and is great to use with copics or prisma pencils


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HELP! What is the gesso paper?

Thanks all for sharing your expertise, great tutorials, and fabulous galleries. I was expecting the markers to be more blendable once on the paper. I will say they are beautiful markers they just do not work (for me) the way I would like them to. Guess I know what will go on my anniversary gift, Christmas gift and Birthday gift list for the next few years.....Copics.

Someone mentioned that the cardstock may make a difference. I have been using the GP from Wal-Mart. I do have a few sheets of SU. WIll have to give it a try.
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If you are coloring large area's, I found that the Wal-Mart paper Georgia-Pacific leaves streak marks. I also found that if I use Stampin Up Whisper White or Vanilla paper coloring with the SU markers is smoother and less streaks. You can give the SU paper a try and see if you like that bettter.
I agree, I was surprised (because I don't like the SU WW for some other situations)...but I guess if I am using the markers I am not really trying to "blend" like I would with the pencils/Gamsol technique. I just color it in; done...if I accidentally go over a previous area I just go over the whole thing again to darken it all--it eventually gets uniform LOL
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