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Kathy, I plan in making my own plate in a couple of weeks (Vacation! Yeah!). Maybe we can share our experiences and help each other. I already have the gelatin and the glycerin, just need a nice tray to mount it.
Kathy, I plan in making my own plate in a couple of weeks (Vacation! Yeah!). Maybe we can share our experiences and help each other. I already have the gelatin and the glycerin, just need a nice tray to mount it.
Do you know which recipe you are using? I've seen a couple. I want it to last and the ones with water say they are only good for three months. I need a tray too. I'm making mine about 6x6.
So I've decided to try and make my own gelli plate. I've watched a couple of tutorials BT which recipe would you recommend? I would like one that would last and one video says it is only good for three months. Also, what type of acrylic paints do you use? I have some water based acryilics but no sure thatnis what they are using. Any helpful ideas would be appreciated.
Be warned - they smell SO bad when you're making them - that gelatin literally made me gag until it was set. However, if you can make it through that, you'll be fine. I used the water one - you can melt them down and start over if they get pitted. I would follow Linda Germain's advice - Linda Germain | Home - she's done it all - that's who I took a workshop from.
My favorite acrylics are Golden Open acrylics, but regular craft store liquid acrylic works fine too - Delta and the like. You can see the difference in my tutorial.
Mostly the difference is transparency and vividness of color:
I am not sure if I am going to use the sugar in the recipe. I wanted to add some kind of bread preservative that you get in bakery products stores, but than I thought I could replace the water with an isotonic drink (which has lots of preservatives). I will make a pre-test to see if the gelatin hardens in this solution.
The frugal crafter uses 1 1/2c water, 1 c of alcohol and a half c of glycerin. I wonder if that recipe would last longer, although I worry about the smell of alcohol if I am to store it in the fridge.
I just checked Lindsay's (the frugal crafter) site and she's changed her recipe to 7 packets gelatin, 1 1/2 c glycerin and 1. 1/2 c boiling water! She says it doesn't need refrigerated!
Sorry for butting in, especially since I have not posted anything at Splitcoast for years, probably. I happened upon this topic today, however. Just wanted to say thanks for the tips and videos and give some information about making your own gelatin plate.
I made gelatin plate using gelatin and glycerin. It is permanent and does not need to be refrigerated. The basic recipe is 7 packets of plain gelatin (such as Knox), 1-1/2 cups of glycerin and 1-1/2 cups of boiling water. Mix everything together thoroughly and pour into your mold. Leave the mold on a flat surface and let it set. I used an old 8x8 baking pan that I had no plans to use for cooking again. I found the glycerin at Wal-Mart in the pharmacy area. You can usually find plain gelatin near the tapioca and boxed Jell-O at the supermarket. So far, the gelatin plate has held up very well, and I've had it out at room temperature for a few months.
I haven't used my plate much because I've not been doing much creative stuff lately, but the plate does work well. I don't know how it compares to the Gelli Arts plate, but I imagine you could use some of the same techniques. Since I've used mostly cheap craft paints that I've had for a while, I have found that adding a little Golden glazing liquid makes it a little easier to roll out the paint and get multiple prints before the paint dries. I roll the glazing liquid onto the plate before adding paint. I just happened to have a bottle of glazing liquid in my stash.
As an alternative to using the glazing liquid, you could use Golden Open Acrylics, Golden Fluid Acrylics, and possibly the new Golden High Flow paints. Also, some brands of craft paints are more liquid than others, so you may want to try different brands of cheaper paints rather than spending a lot of money on Golden brand.
Here is the link to the YouTube video with the recipe for making a permanent gelatin plate.
Good news! My SCS BFF ordered me a gelli plate so I should be creating next week! I've already started cutting paper and getting it ready to create fun!
Sorry for butting in, especially since I have not posted anything at Splitcoast for years, probably. I happened upon this topic today, however. Just wanted to say thanks for the tips and videos and give some information about making your own gelatin plate.
I made gelatin plate using gelatin and glycerin. It is permanent and does not need to be refrigerated. The basic recipe is 7 packets of plain gelatin (such as Knox), 1-1/2 cups of glycerin and 1-1/2 cups of boiling water. Mix everything together thoroughly and pour into your mold. Leave the mold on a flat surface and let it set. I used an old 8x8 baking pan that I had no plans to use for cooking again. I found the glycerin at Wal-Mart in the pharmacy area. You can usually find plain gelatin near the tapioca and boxed Jell-O at the supermarket. So far, the gelatin plate has held up very well, and I've had it out at room temperature for a few months.
I haven't used my plate much because I've not been doing much creative stuff lately, but the plate does work well. I don't know how it compares to the Gelli Arts plate, but I imagine you could use some of the same techniques. Since I've used mostly cheap craft paints that I've had for a while, I have found that adding a little Golden glazing liquid makes it a little easier to roll out the paint and get multiple prints before the paint dries. I roll the glazing liquid onto the plate before adding paint. I just happened to have a bottle of glazing liquid in my stash.
As an alternative to using the glazing liquid, you could use Golden Open Acrylics, Golden Fluid Acrylics, and possibly the new Golden High Flow paints. Also, some brands of craft paints are more liquid than others, so you may want to try different brands of cheaper paints rather than spending a lot of money on Golden brand.
Here is the link to the YouTube video with the recipe for making a permanent gelatin plate.
And OMGOSH - I ALMOST went to Jerry's today - I took an India Ink painting class and was so tempted, but too tired. Now you've inspired me to go tomorrow - I had no clue that glazing medium would help with that - thank you so much!
Good news! My SCS BFF ordered me a gelli plate so I should be creating next week! I've already started cutting paper and getting it ready to create fun!
What a sweet friend! I'm so happy for you!
We used some amazing paper in my painting class today that I KNOW would be dreamy for gel printing. Sadly she got it from a friend and didn't know the brand - but it had a beautiful, velvety finish on it.
Great Kathy, look forward to seeing some of your creations.
I had a slight malfunction yesterday, I was using distress paints on my plate, it wouldn't come out so I squeezed a little too hard, the top shot across the room along with half a bottle of broken china paint, my dress was covered along with the floor, drawers, well everything really, The rest of the bottle was on the plate, I managed to make about six BG pieces after I finished laughing, and cleaning!
Great Kathy, look forward to seeing some of your creations.
I had a slight malfunction yesterday, I was using distress paints on my plate, it wouldn't come out so I squeezed a little too hard, the top shot across the room along with half a bottle of broken china paint, my dress was covered along with the floor, drawers, well everything really, The rest of the bottle was on the plate, I managed to make about six BG pieces after I finished laughing, and cleaning!
Glad you could laugh about it Jan, and hopefully it was a water based acrylics so it was easy to wash up?
Thanks, Lydia! I'm glad to be back. This is a great forum, and I'm really sorry I was away for so long. I just haven't been making cards very much. I started making cards back in the '90s using leaves to make prints. Now that the trees have leafed out in Indiana, I'd love to see how leaves would work as masks on the gelatin plate and/or use them to print on some gelatin print backgrounds.
By the way, I didn't come up with the glazing liquid idea. I saw it on a YouTube video, possibly one from JennieBellie. I just happened to have some in my stash, so I have used the glazing liquid with some of the thicker craft paints. It really does help with spreading the paint into an even layer.
Looking forward to reading about everyone's gelatin printing adventures.
Thanks, Lydia! I'm glad to be back. This is a great forum, and I'm really sorry I was away for so long. I just haven't been making cards very much. I started making cards back in the '90s using leaves to make prints. Now that the trees have leafed out in Indiana, I'd love to see how leaves would work as masks on the gelatin plate and/or use them to print on some gelatin print backgrounds.
By the way, I didn't come up with the glazing liquid idea. I saw it on a YouTube video, possibly one from JennieBellie. I just happened to have some in my stash, so I have used the glazing liquid with some of the thicker craft paints. It really does help with spreading the paint into an even layer.
Looking forward to reading about everyone's gelatin printing adventures.
leaves are LOVELY on the gelli plate - so are feathers!! Especially when you roll paint, put the leaf down, press your paper on, life the paper just enough to remove the leaf / feather, and then press the paper again and life - it looks like an x-ray! Try it!!
leaves are LOVELY on the gelli plate - so are feathers!! Especially when you roll paint, put the leaf down, press your paper on, life the paper just enough to remove the leaf / feather, and then press the paper again and life - it looks like an x-ray! Try it!!
does anyone know if this is the glazing liquid I need
Hi, Kathy/muscrat. The glazing liquid I mentioned was Golden's Acrylic Glazing liquid, which comes in a tall bottle with a screw nozzle sort of like a Plochman's mustard container. That's probably clear as mud, but here's a link to the product I referenced:
I'm not familiar with the Daler-Rowney product, so I don't know how well it might work. I think any acrylic gel or liquid medium mixed with your paint will give you some more open time, that is keep your paint wet a little longer so you can roll it out easily and print. Keep in mind that you don't have to have acrylic glazing liquid or acrylic gel medium to use your gelatin plate. I just had some older, thicker craft paints that were not rolling out easily on my homemade gelatin plate. I found the glazing medium helped them to roll out better.
Rather than buy the glazing liquid or gel medium, you might do better just to look for paints that roll out easily and/or to not use old paint. In other words, don't be like me. I just happened to have some of the glazing liquid on hand. It's pretty expensive, so I would not have bought it solely for making gelatin prints. It is much cheaper just to buy newer craft paints.
I think you would get good results with Golden Open acrylics, Golden Fluid acrylics, and Golden High-Flow acrylics. I have used Golden's Fluid acrylics, and they do work well without the need for the glazing liquid.
While I have not personally used this brand, I know that some people have had good results with the Liquitex Basics acrylics that come in tubes.
Julie Fei-Fan Balzer used those in an online class on Gelli prints.
Also, certain brands and even colors of craft paints are more liquid than others. Delta seems to work pretty well for me, and I've seen people using the Americana and Apple Barrrel brands in YouTube videos. Lydia/Understand Blue used Apple Barrel in her video that's posted upthread.
The Gelli Arts people use a lot of different types of paints in their videos, including heavy-bodied paints. I think any acrylic paint that is new(ish) and not drying out should work fine for you. Sorry for the long answer.
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Here is what my second time at making prints look like. I watched Lydia's tutorial as I did them. Is this what they should look like. I am not as creative as some. :( But think I can do things to these and use them.
This is just some of them drying. I think the others, I might put more one them next time, like Lydia said. Just keep layering.
So does it look like I am on the right track? They sure don't look like Lydia's.
Those are great, smadson. I especially like the one in the lower left. It looks like there is no border around it, but that's not why I like it. The colors are really pretty. What sort of paints did you use?
Just Folkart acrylic from Michels. Got a bunch when it was on sale. Then I have a bottle of Golden Open acrylic medium (matte) that I put on the plate first. I think that is supposed to keep my other paint wetter.???That way I don't have to use the expensive Golden colors. Does that make since. I went to a demo, and they suggested that.
That one in the lower left is the wipe up one. LOL I rolled all the extra out and put that paper on it. I used it all up on that one!
Just Folkart acrylic from Michels. Got a bunch when it was on sale. Then I have a bottle of Golden Open acrylic medium (matte) that I put on the plate first. I think that is supposed to keep my other paint wetter.???That way I don't have to use the expensive Golden colors. Does that make since. I went to a demo, and they suggested that.
That one in the lower left is the wipe up one. LOL I rolled all the extra out and put that paper on it. I used it all up on that one!
Yes, it does make sense. I've found that Folk Art paints seem to be thicker than other craft paints, although that may not be true of all varieties of the Folk Art brand. I've had to use Golden's Glazing Liquid to loosen them up a bit. My Folk Art paints were also old, so I'm sure that had something to do with their resistance to being rolled out. Delta and Golden Fluid acrylics seem to work okay without use of glazing liquid.
Your wipe up sheet is gorgeous! I think the Plan B, ghost prints, and wipe up gelatin prints can be prettier and more interesting than the planned prints.
Sharon they are great, they will make lovely BG's, I keep mine if they are half decent and then add more colour etc when I decide what to do with them or die cut them, I'll need another drawer soon for all my gelli prints, lLOL
Thank you everyone! Makes me feel good. Now to figure out what to do with them. Are any of you doing VSN this week-end? Starts tomorrow at 6:;00 pm EST! 12 challenges!
Gelli plate has arrived! Played a little. Need a few stencils. I plan to make stuff to use because I don't want to invest more money for crafting! I am sure I can find all kinds of texture creating items!
Gelli plate has arrived! Played a little. Need a few stencils. I plan to make stuff to use because I don't want to invest more money for crafting! I am sure I can find all kinds of texture creating items!
Don't forget, you can use die cuts, the paper you cut for shapes. Not the dies themselves, but what you cut out with them or punched shapes. I think I could put the waxed paper cut on there. You know how with some intricate dies you use wax paper? Then I don't want to throw that wax paper shape away! LOL
Use it on the gel print! I haven't tried that yet! Show us you play prints.