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Old 07-26-2005, 11:38 AM   #1  
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need help with unsealed tile problem!

okay, I've done plenty of sealed tile coasters. I really want to do some unsealed ones to retain absorbency. I don't like the look of StazOn/sharpies. So I was excited about getting the new Craft spots and baking my tiles.

Sooo...yesterday I used my Craft spots with Fresh Fruits and baked at 350 degrees for 1 hour (supposed to be 30 minutes but I forgot about them...oops!) Everything looked great.

I set my icewater on one of the tiles for a couple hours to test it. The ruby red craft ink just barely started to come off but the Old Olive came ALMOST COMPLETELY OFF! All that is left of the olive is some light green staining!
I'm supposed to teach a class on tiles in a couple of weeks and this is not acceptable.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas? My tiles were washed and dried thoroughly so I know there wasn't any residue. I think it's weird that one color would vary so differently from another.

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My upline and I used the StazOn pads and reinkers with old blender pens to color tiles at our stampcamp. We had to play around with it a bit but we got it to look pretty good and it hasn't faded or washed away. Everyone seemed to love them. There aren't many color choices but it was all we could think of other than the sharpies. My son gave me a great idea to use my rubber scraps on the bottom. Worked great and I finally found a use for my rubber scraps.

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In terms of SU products, you could use the new Stampin' Write Journalers. They are: fade resistent, water-proof permanent markers. I would guess they would color in like Sharpie or Fabrico markers. I'll have to try a few before adding them to the ole' wish list. They should work just fine on the unglazed tiles without sealing. If you are into trying non-SU products try EK Success memory pencils. They come in primary and pastel colors. They are permanent, fade-proof, light proof and water resistent. I read about these here on SCS and they work GREAT on tiles. I picked up my pencils at Walmart for around $4.50 per pack.

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I have done quite a few sets of the tumbled tiles for coasters with the craft ink and I have baked them at 325-350 for 15 or 20 minutes and I have never had a problem with the ink smearing off. Are your tumbled tiles smooth or the rough ones? I always buy the rough ones because they seem to absorb the moisture better.'

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Where do you guys buy your tiles? I haven't seen them at Home Depot. Don't know where else to go. Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
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Aileen: I buy my Tiles at Lowes. The are sold by singles or you can purchase a box. They are Italian Tiles (tumble tiles) They have a whiteish color and an off white color. There are a rough texture. They are the cheapest I have found. The size is about 3X3 and about .32 cents a tile. The rough texture absorbs ink well and a very classy image. I spent a lot of time researching and reading on this site before I went purchasing or making these tiles. The info on this topic is overwhelming but comprehensive and everyone here really help me make the new adventure much smoother. Good Luck.
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Kardizzy:
Wish I had an answer to this one. I know that my best efforts and attempts at this tile thing is with Staz-on. As far as coloring my love is the "Stampin Up" pastels. I use cosmetic cotton applicators( the one with one pointy end) for the tight spots and stipple brushes for large blending areas. But I do have to seal.
I spent lots of time reading up on this topic and Staz-on ink is the most preferred and full proof. But I would pose the question in a email to the demos at convention, which is going on right now. There are masses of demos there who a very versed. Happy Stamping.
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I also buy my tiles at Lowe's but I can't get them individually, I have to buy them in a box of about 9. Always make sure to pull the tiles out of the box before you buy them and pick the best tiles. Last time I went through 6 different boxes before I found enough tiles that I liked for 1 box:-)
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Aileen: I buy my Tiles at Lowes. The are sold by singles or you can purchase a box. They are Italian Tiles (tumble tiles) They have a whiteish color and an off white color. There are a rough texture. They are the cheapest I have found. The size is about 3X3 and about .32 cents a tile. The rough texture absorbs ink well and a very classy image. I spent a lot of time researching and reading on this site before I went purchasing or making these tiles. The info on this topic is overwhelming but comprehensive and everyone here really help me make the new adventure much smoother. Good Luck.

Thanks! I will search for the closest Lowes by me!
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Thanks ladies for your responses. I do buy the "rough" Bottichino tiles from Lowes. I am still completely perplexed why the Olive didn't bake on. And I was so excited about using my new craft ink on them so I wouldn't have to seal (it would make the classes easier). I just don't know.

Question to those who use chalk pastels: How do you get intense color? When I've tried to put on the chalks with blender pens or q-tips, the color is so light that it's almost not worth it. Does it become more vibrant when you seal? Just looking for options at this point...

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My personal opinion is that some inks "flake out" because the recipe to make the color is just different enough that they may not all work as expected. For instance, I would have expected the baking of any craft ink to set, it didn't work for olive which makes me think the ink recipe is just a bit different. On to your question...

Getting vibrant color with chalk means lots of chalk on the q-tip AND lots of rubbing in. I've done the sur-ripened sets and gotten the yellow/oranges to even pop out, along with purples and reds. Be generous with the chalk. Of course you will have to then seal the tiles to keep it on there.

I have also put Stazon ink in a paint palette and painted in a few areas that way. Limited color choice though.

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There is a final step you can try. When we made tiles at my upline we baked them at 325 for 15 minutes, let them cool and then you spray them with a thin coat of Krylon matte finish, let them dry again. I have a friend who has used one as a coaster in all kinds of weather with drippy cups and it stays sealed just fine.
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Oops, sorry, I just saw you said unsealed tiles . . .
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Another option, which adds a bit of time, but keeps you options open and your images safe is to do a "reverse mask". Stamp your image on some cardstock or paper, cut out the image and then use the "negative" to cover all of the tile except your main image. Then you can spray seal your image only and still have the rest of the tile be absorbent.

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I love your idea of a reverse mask. I never would have thought of that, but it is a great option. Thanks!!!
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Another option, which adds a bit of time, but keeps you options open and your images safe is to do a "reverse mask". Stamp your image on some cardstock or paper, cut out the image and then use the "negative" to cover all of the tile except your main image. Then you can spray seal your image only and still have the rest of the tile be absorbent.

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Now why didn't I think of that?? LOL What a wonderful idea TFS
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Question to those who use chalk pastels: How do you get intense color? When I've tried to put on the chalks with blender pens or q-tips, the color is so light that it's almost not worth it. Does it become more vibrant when you seal? Just looking for options at this point...

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You don't lightly rub them on like you do a card. You have to kind of "scrub" them in. Sometimes if I want really vibrant color (like very bright red) I do multiple applications. I use cotton cosmetic applicators (flat and wide on one side and pointy on the other).
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Just noticed this thread about the Old Olive craft spot - This is the only spot that will not DRY COMPLETELY no matter what I do! Heat set it included.

Even on cardstock - it smears off on my fingers! Anyone have suggestions?
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Question to those who use chalk pastels: How do you get intense color? When I've tried to put on the chalks with blender pens or q-tips, the color is so light that it's almost not worth it. Does it become more vibrant when you seal? Just looking for options at this point...-Kari
Hi Kari - check out this thread about using pastels on tile coasters:

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I did some gorgeous Bochinno "tumbled" tiles about 1 1/2 years ago using Staz on inks. I did heat set them for about 15 minutes with my heat tool. I did not seal them and now they are looking pretty faded. If your Staz on wiped off or washed off after heating, they may need to be washed thoroughly, dried and then stamp them. I did some glass canisters with Stazon without washing and then I let them sit for days. When I washed them, they washed off clean!
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Thanks for the link Linda. I'll have to try that technique using the Versamark pen. I've seen pics of really intensely colored tiles with chalk so I know it's possible. Still, I'd prefer to use a method that doesn't require sealing.

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Thanks for the link Linda. I'll have to try that technique using the Versamark pen. I've seen pics of really intensely colored tiles with chalk so I know it's possible. Still, I'd prefer to use a method that doesn't require sealing.

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If you like the look of chalks that don't require sealing, use the EK Success Memory Pencils. The are fadeproof, waterproof, basically permanent colored pencils. It is the best $5 I've ever spent at Walmart! They come in a Primary set and Pastel Set. Use these pencils, coupled with Stazon and you have a wonderfully absorbant coaster. Note, you do have to "scrub" the color into the tile (like with chalks), but it is vibrant when done.

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If you like the look of chalks that don't require sealing, use the EK Success Memory Pencils. The are fadeproof, waterproof, basically permanent colored pencils. It is the best $5 I've ever spent at Walmart! They come in a Primary set and Pastel Set. Use these pencils, coupled with Stazon and you have a wonderfully absorbant coaster. Note, you do have to "scrub" the color into the tile (like with chalks), but it is vibrant when done.

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PS Walmart carries the Primary set, I picked up the Pastels at a LSS for a few dollars more.
Thanks for this great info, Annette!

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Thanks for all the suggestions! BTW I did call DS awhile ago about this my OO not setting after being baked. They had no clue why the OO wouldn't be heat setting. I was referred back to the SS issue that had the sample of a tumbled tiles with the pear from Fresh Fruit. They said that they used the journalers to do the tile. Has anyone tried this?
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Since this topic is about unsealed tiles, I want to make sure you check out StamperSharon's beautiful tumbled tile coasters made with the SU! Petal Point Chalk pads, and she didn't have to seal them:

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Hi everyone! I would like to recommend the following site and directions for making coasters that REALLY absorb! IMHO, tumbled tiles are nice for trivets and for fun, but they do not absorb.

Go to: papercraftingmagazine.com and on the left side, go to "archives" and then "designer" and scroll to "Dayra Smith". This will give you her article and instructions.

To see the coasters: on the left side again, go to Search and type "coasters" and it will give you all of her pictures of coasters.

I have been very happy with my tiles and they have held up beautifully.

Enjoy!
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